Talk:Conspirator

Subtle Blow Testing

• Caduceus RDM/BST, 0 Subtle Blow in gear vs. TWtbW Funguars in Jugner forest
• THF/BRD assisting/holding, Phalanx for all

Control test: 10x hits with Caduceus = 53% TP for the Funguar. (Charm -> <pettp>)
Conspirator test 1: THF/BRD casts a bunch of Threnodies, gets mega hate. Uses Conspirator, RDM hits the funguar 10 times and Charms it (never takes hate). <pettp>=53% TP... Weird! Both players definitely had Conspirator active.
Conspirator test 2: THF/BRD casts a bunch of Threnodies, gets mega hate. RDM casts Phalanx II on him. THF then uses Conspirator, but not before one normal hit can sneak by from the RDM. 10x hits with Conspirator on, Charm -> 47% TP.

• We know that the first hit did 5.3% from the control, and we know that 10×X.Y = XY TP, so the 10 normal hits had to contribute a whole number. Therefore, test 2 was actually 47.3TP, and the 10 Conspirator hits gave 4.2 TP each.
• 4.2/5.3 = .8, almost perfectly. So Conspirator gives 20 Subtle Blow --Byrthnoth 22:29, 27 June 2011 (EDT)

Raider's Vest Testing

• I have not been able to confirm the claims on the main page, but I also have been trying to do it solo. --Byrthnoth 13:38, 27 November 2011 (EST)

Accuracy Testing

Using this while disengaged from a monster results in +0 Accuracy. It could be like Closed Position, which does not appear in /check tests, or it could require you be engaged to a monster but not its target. My guess for this is obviously 20 Accuracy, but I can't confirm it easily. --Byrthnoth 13:38, 27 November 2011 (EST)

• Using /checkparam when not the target of the enemy I had 815/735 accuracy and upon using Conspirator I had 830/750; so a bonus of +15 to both hands. Rocl (talk) 23:39, 20 February 2014 (EST)

Subtle Blow Tests 2014

stats:
1 colliery bat in zeruhn mines
vmod thf/war - single wield mandau, emp+2 body, confirmed to give 39 tp/hit
ruckus bst/whm - single wield juggernaut confirmed to give 96 tp/hit
bat confirmed to earn 64 tp/hit on either char

vmod solo on bat:
1 v pre-con hit (1 x 39), 2 v post-con hit (2 x ??) , 1 bat hit (1 x 64) > bat's tp 181.
vmod post-con ?? = 39, conspirator gives no subtle blow when only thf has enmity.

vmod+ruckus on bat, vmod has aggro:
9 ruck pre-con hit (9 x 96), 1 bat hit on ruck (1 x 64), 2 bat hit on vmod (2 x 64), 2 v pre-con hit (1 x 39), 2 v post-con hit (2 x ??) > bat's tp 1208.
v post-con ?? = 37, conspirator gives thf with aggro 5% subtle blow when pt has some enmity.

new bat stats:
1 colliery bat in zeruhn mines
vmod thf/war - single wield mandau, emp+2 body, confirmed to give 39 tp/hit
ruckus bst/whm - single wield juggernaut confirmed to give 98 tp/hit
bat confirmed to earn 64 tp/hit on either char

vmod+ruckus on bat, ruckus has aggro:
6 ruck pre-con hit (6 x 98), 1 ruck post-con hit (1 x ??), 3 bat hit on ruck (3 x 64), 1 v pre-con hit (1 x 39), 2 bat hit on v (2 x 64) > bat's tp 1045.
ruck post-con ?? = 98, conspirator gives pt member with aggro no subtle blow.

vmod+ruckus on bat, ruckus has aggro:
3 ruck pre-con hit (3 x 98), 1 ruck post-con hit (1 x ??), 2 bat hit on ruck (2 x 64), 2 v pre-con hit (2 x 39), 2 bat hit on v (2 x 64) > bat's tp 726.
ruck post-con ?? = 98, conspirator gives pt member with aggro no subtle blow.

vmod+ruckus on bat, vmod has aggro:
1 ruck pre-con hit (1 x 98), 1 ruck post-con hit (1 x ??), 5 v pre-con hit (5 x 39) > bat's tp 381.
ruck post-con ?? = 88, conspirator gives pt member 10% subtle blow when thf has aggro.

vmod+ruckus on bat, ruckus has aggro:
4 ruck pre-con hit (4 x 98), 2 v pre-con hit (2 x 39), 1 v post-con (1 x ??) > bat's tp 505.
vmod post-con ?? = 35, conspirator gives thf 10% subtle blow when pt member has aggro.

vmod solo on bat:
6 v pre-con hit (6 x 39), 1 ruck post-con hit (1 x ??) > bat's tp 322.
ruck post-con ?? = 88, conspirator gives pt member 10% subtle blow when only thf has enmity.

empyrean+2 body conclusions:
solo thf gains no benefit from conspirator
thf, in pt, with enmity, gains 10% subtle blow from conspirator
thf, in pt, with aggro, gains 5% subtle blow from conspirator
pt member, with enmity, gains 10% subtle blow from conspirator
pt member, with aggro, gains no subtle blow from conspirator

please also note that /checkparam was utilized at multiple points. no change in accuracy or any other stat occurred. --Vm0d (talk) 19:33, 2 November 2014 (EST)

Subtle blow effect with Empyrean +1 body and no Empyrean body

new bat stats:
1 colliery bat in zeruhn mines zalo thf/war - single wield ark scythe, emp+1 body, confirmed to give 104 tp/hit
ruckus bst/whm - single wield juggernaut confirmed to give 83 tp/hit
bat confirmed to earn 64 tp/hit on either char

zalo+ruckus on bat, zalo has aggro:
2 ruck pre-con hit (2 x 83), 2 bat hit on ruck (2 x 64), 2 zalo pre-con hit (2 x 104), 1 bat hit on zalo (1 x 64), 1 zalo post-con hit (1 x ??) > bat's tp 670.
zalo post-con ?? = 104, thf with aggro gains no subtle blow effect when pt has some enmity.

new bat stats:
1 colliery bat in zeruhn mines
zalo thf/war - single wield eminent dagger, emp+1 body, confirmed to give 40 tp/hit
ruckus bst/whm - single wield juggernaut confirmed to give 83 tp/hit
bat confirmed to earn 64 tp/hit on either char

zalo+ruckus on bat, zalo has aggro:
1 ruck pre-con hit (1 x 83), 1 ruck post-con hit (1 x ??), 3 zalo pre-con hit (3 x 40) > bat's tp 277.
ruck post-con ?? = 74, conspirator gives pt member 10% subtle blow when thf has aggro.

zalo+ruckus on bat, zalo has aggro:
1 ruck pre-con hit (1 x 83), 4 zalo pre-con hit (4 x 40), 1 bat hit on zalo (1 x 64), 1 zalo post-con hit (1 x ??) > bat's tp 347.
zalo post-con ?? = 40, thf with aggro gains no subtle blow effect when pt has some enmity.

zalo+ruckus on bat, zalo has aggro:
2 ruck pre-con hit (2 x 83), 1 bat hit on ruck (1 x 64), 8 zalo pre-con hit (8 x 40), 1 bat hit on zalo (1 x 64), 1 zalo post-con hit (1 x ??) > bat's tp 654.
zalo post-con ?? = 40, thf with aggro gains no subtle blow effect when pt has some enmity.

new bat stats:
1 colliery bat in zeruhn mines
zalo thf/war - single wield eminent dagger, no emp body, confirmed to give 40 tp/hit
ruckus bst/whm - single wield juggernaut confirmed to give 83 tp/hit
bat confirmed to earn 64 tp/hit on either char

zalo+ruckus on bat, zalo has aggro:
2 ruck pre-con hit (2 x 83), 1 ruck post-con hit (1 x ??), 4 zalo pre-con hit (4 x 40), 1 bat hit on zalo (1 x 64) > bat's tp 464.
ruck post-con ?? = 74, conspirator gives pt member 10% subtle blow when thf has aggro.

zalo+ruckus on bat, zalo has aggro:
1 ruck pre-con hit (1 x 83), 1 ruck post-con hit (1 x ??), 4 zalo pre-con hit (4 x 40) > bat's tp 317.
ruck post-con ?? = 74, conspirator gives pt member 10% subtle blow when thf has aggro.

thf gains no subtle blow effect from conspirator with aggro wearing either empyrean body+1 or no body at all. however, party members gain the same 10% subtle blow bonus regardless of gear. --Vm0d (talk) 22:09, 2 November 2014 (EST)